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injuryupdate
20-06-2004, 06:21 PM
At the moment we don't have injury information outside the Tri-nations on this website. If anyone is concerned about the home nations then please note:
Scotland - don't bother, wouldn't be competitive against Australia no matter how many injuries either team had AND
England - big call, but ditto once you have removed Johnny Wilkinson. Talk about one-man team and goal-kicking being overly important in rugby union.

Makes me wonder what the F is going on with Hazem El-Masri. He remains unsigned with the Bulldogs who have apparently offered him less than $150K for next year. No other league teams have weighed in with any big offers (and perhaps since goalkicking in league is less important nor should they). However, if El Masri isn't better value for a union team than Sailor and Tuquri put together then I'm Johnny Wilkinson. And by the way, I couldn't kick the ball over a jam tin.

It just seems that in rugby union, a good kicker will pressurise a team to stick to the rules in defence because they can't afford to give away an automatic 3 points, which gives the offence a huge advantage. If a team has a less potent kicker (and therefore won't always take the shot at goal) then any time they get an overlap the defence infringes and gives away a penalty to prevent a try.

When comparing the wingers, Tuquiri scores a flashy try every third game he plays, whereas Sailor scores one every fifth game (in meaningless encounters) and has never done anything in an important match. Neither of these players could kick to save themselves and therefore talk of Tuquiri playing full-back is a complete joke. El Masri would be the Australian answer to Johnny Wilkinson and would give the halves more room to work in because the opposition would fear giving away a penalty with him in the side.

It all makes me think that the ARU only care about trying to win the marketing battle against the NRL (by poaching their big name stars) rather than trying to actually win Test matches. El Masri would literally win Tests off his own boot, like Wilkinson does, whereas Wendall Sailor is a liability in union. At least if he came back to the Nth Queensland Cowboys (which is what he should do) he might have some impact on the field (as opposed to having impact with his mouth, which is all he is doing at the moment).

NB I've written this post before the Test match against the Poms, but would be utterly amazed if I was proved wrong by England grinding out a win on penalty goals against a lone Wendall Sailor starring on the wing for Australia. Look for the Poms to struggle until Johnny is over his shoulder injury, and for Wendall to do nothing against the All Blacks when Australia face a genuine opponent.

Danny
24-06-2004, 08:15 AM
I think you are just too cynical, of course the ARU has a plan.......they're going to dump a pot of gold into Andrew John's pocket. I really like the way the ARU is going about their game development:

Don't bother with trivial junior development, let league train them up and poach them with money that winners of the lottery don't even see.

Qwackemall
25-06-2004, 09:06 PM
Johnson was far more important to England than what Wilkinson, if goalkicking is the issue for their side Johnny's replacement Charlie Hodgson didnt miss any goals in the two tests against NZ.
Dallaglio is the Monty Betham of international rugby, he's thick and he's a dirty thug. He isnt a good leader.
Everyone will watch this english side simply struggle in the next 2 years.

injuryupdate
04-07-2004, 04:15 PM
Sailor didn't get the chance to show what a waste of money he was in the England Test, but the Poms struggled without Johnny (plus others I admit). Still can't work out why only the French rugby union has made a crack at Hazem El-Masri

budz
06-07-2004, 02:41 PM
Would someone be able to tell me what injury Wilkinson is out with and when he will be back? And also in what game did he injure himself?
Thanks

Qwackemall
07-07-2004, 09:05 AM
Would someone be able to tell me what injury Wilkinson is out with and when he will be back? And also in what game did he injure himself?
Thanks
He'll be back next month playing for Newcastle

budz
07-07-2004, 01:25 PM
Thanks mate. But straight after i posted that i read about his neck injury and that he will be back.