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angieliu
15-12-2006, 07:07 PM
Hi there,

I'm sure that you have all been in a situation where you have had many diagnoses about your injuries. For me I have had two shoulder injuries from dance and now I'm in need ot seeking a sports physician.

Can anyone firstly suggest a good sports physician in the Canberra/sydney region who specialises in shoulder injuries? I know the shoulder is very complex so I would prefer to get someone who knows what they are talking about. And if you can understand after seeing sports chiro's in the US (where I hurt my shoulder), to physios and osteopaths, who have come up with so many diagnoses I'm just about fed up. I'm starting to think that the sport's chiro's diagnosis was more accurate than any other who said that I did a subhumoral dislocation.

Also are any of you aware of any recent studies done on the benefits of strengthening the muscles around the shoulder (e.g. rotator cuff muscles) compared to surgery? I'd prefer not to go down the path to have surgery as it would take a long time to recover and being a competitive latin dancer this makes it very difficult.

I'd greatly appreciate anyones advice.

Nicholas
15-12-2006, 08:05 PM
Sydney has a better choice of shoulder surgeons. Amoung them include: Jerome Goldburg; Des Bokor and David Sunnabend. Bokor is at Parramatta and Goldberg at Randwick. Don't know about Sunnabend though. Hope that helps.

jellybean
15-12-2006, 09:38 PM
Hi Angieliu,

All of the guys mentioned below are reportedly excellent shoulder surgeons but, as you're after a sports physician, I can highly recommend Seamus Dalton at North Sydney Orthopaedic and Sports Medicine Clinic (02 9437 5999). Really helped me out - thorough, professional, made the correct diagnosis, suggested the correct treatment and conservative in his approach - won't suggest surgery unless it's really necessary. If you're after excellent shoulder sports physio's - Joel Werman in North Sydney (02 9955 8766) or Henry Wajswelner at the AIS in Canberra (also sees private patients).

Good luck.

Cheers,

JB

angieliu
17-12-2006, 09:55 PM
JB,

Thanks for your advice. I have been reading up and have found that sports physio's and the like in Sydney to be more experienced and are also happy to offer more advice than most here in Canberra.

Do you know how I can get in touch with the physio who works for the AIS? I'd be keen to get a second opinion.

Thanks muchly

Angie

angieliu
17-12-2006, 10:00 PM
Hey Nicholas,

Thanks for your advice. I will see how I go in canberra with the sports medicine physician here and see what they have to say. I don't think they can really make a proper diagnosis until I get an ultrasound or a MRI. People have been making random diagnoses and without it.

Will keep the Sydney sports physician in mind and get in contact with them in the new year for a second opinion.

jellybean
18-12-2006, 06:41 AM
JB,

Thanks for your advice. I have been reading up and have found that sports physio's and the like in Sydney to be more experienced and are also happy to offer more advice than most here in Canberra.

Do you know how I can get in touch with the physio who works for the AIS? I'd be keen to get a second opinion.

Thanks muchly

Angie


Hi Angie,

I have to emphasise that both Joel and Henry are sports physiotherapists not sports physicians - both are extremely good but they are physiotherapists not doctors. If you are after a diagnosis, ordering of tests and recommendation of treatment options for your situation you are best seeing a sports physician (sports doctor) first. I don't know that you'd find anyone better than Seamus when it comes to sports physicians who specialise in shoulders / upper back. (The doc who I saw in Canberra when I originally injured my shoulder was still doing his sports physician training and was young and inexperienced, I wouldn't recommend him - he has since moved back to Melbourne anyway). Seamus is located at North Sydney Orthopedic and Sports Medicine Clinic and they also have excellent imaging department (ultrasound, MRI etc) - a bit more expensive but worth it. From memory you'll need a referral from another doc to see Seamus.

If you are still after physiotherapy in Canberra, you can make an appointment with Henry by ringing the AIS Dept of Physical Therapies on 6214 1728. (He also works a few sessions at a clinic in Belconnen but they are more expensive and are not as well equipped). H works with the upper body sports at the AIS and is excellent with shoulders. The AIS Dept of Physical Therapies (Physiotherapy) is located in the AIS Sports Medicine and Science Unit. If you don't know the AIS grounds see http://www.ais.org.au/campus_map/AIS-Canberra-a4.pdf for an up-to-date map (Building 18). If you're visiting the AIS, it's probably best if you park in one of the car parks on Leverrier Crescent (there's a bit of public parking next to Building D and more further up) walk through past the new pool to the Sports Med and Science Unit (there may also be parking out the back near the soccer fields but I'm not certain of that).

Christmas time obviously might not be the best time to be trying to see someone but good luck. Let us know how you go.

Cheers,

JB

P.S. I am based in Sydney but have worked alot in Canberra over the last six years or so and still spend a few months down there a year. (I work in sport).

angieliu
21-12-2006, 08:36 AM
Hi JB,

I understand that Joel and Henry are both physiotherapists and that the only way to diagnose a SLAP lesion is a MRI which is the pathway I'm going to head down so that it can be properly diagnosed and from there I can consider the options. I've managed to track down Henry at the AIS so I will look into it further.

When I saw the Sports med doctor, they suspected a SLAP lesion and said that the only real treatment option is surgery. From my understanding on reading up on SLAP lesions, surgery is normally a last resort if it is a type 1 or 2 lesion. So I wonder if you can help with pointing me in the direction of finding some recent literature on treatment alternatives for SLAP lesions?

I think that she took the approach that because my shoulder has been playing up on and off for 6 months that I was looking for a quick solution. Which in fact is totally opposite to what I'm looking for. I'd prefer to look at an exercise rehab program to strengthen the muscles around the shoulder to help stabilise the shoulder joint better and for the time being avoid certain things to put any further strain on it.

I think that given the situation, it may just be a really good idea to go and see Seamus and get a second opinion.

Thanks so much for all your help with this. It's so hard to squeeze information out of doctors. Maybe that's just the nature of the profession!

Take care and have a great christmas

Angie
P.S. if you don't mind me asking do you work in physio or sports science?

jellybean
22-12-2006, 05:59 AM
Hi Angie,

I'm not a medico and haven't had a SLAP lesion so I can't comment on their diagnosis or treatment [my shoulder inury was a supraspinatus tear complicated by secondary capsulitis (a frozen shoulder)], however I can recommend all of the above guys as excellent medicos to see if you have a shoulder injury (often half the battle is knowing the right people to see. Not all medicos are created equal). Further to that, in my experience, sports physicians will give you plenty of information (and Seamus is certainly very thorough) - in complete contrast to OS's (orthopedic surgeons)!!

If you're after information in the meantime, I'd just Google SLAP lesions and look for recent info from reputable journals/sites.

In terms of exercise rehab programs - both H and Joel are excellent!

Re my background - the short answer is sports science, although its a bit broader thanhtat.

Anyway, 'hope it all goes well. Let us know how you go and have a great Christmas / New Year!

Cheers,

JB

angieliu
09-01-2007, 09:04 AM
Hey JB,

Hope you had a good Christmas and New Year. As for my shoulder, it has actually calmed down and does not hurt much. After 2 weeks of proper rest it feels so much better. No dull aching pain.

I did a MRI scan which showed that there was no evidence of a tear (which is good I think) and so I'm heading over to see Henry to see what sort of exercises he can give me. But a question, do you know much about the benefits of hydrotherapy with shoulder injuries? I started doing some aqua fit classes thinking that it would be good for overall body toning and thought about it that it is low impact on your muscles and also you use the gravity of the water to build strength. Who knows.. :)

Take care with your injuries. Rest can do amazing things!!
Angie

jellybean
10-01-2007, 07:03 AM
Hi Ang,

Yes, they were good, 'hope yours were too!

'Glad to hear your shoulder has settled with a bit of rest - you're absolutely right, rest (or for me, some time off work) can do amazing things!

See Henry, he will give you a good ex rehab program (I can do rotator cuff exercises in my sleep!) or, if he thinks it warranted, will send you straight off to a sports physician. If you just have physio initially and continue to have problems he will suggest that you see a sports physician. Hopefully your MRI results are accurate and you have no tear (good news), keep in mind, however, that MRI results are not always accurate (the quality of the images depend on the strength of the magnet - vary from machine to machine - and the ability of the technician operating it and the accuracy of the report will be dependent on this and the diagnostic ability of the radiologist writing the report). I won't go anywhere other than the Imaging guys at North Sydney Orthopedic and Sports Med Clinic in Crows Nest now because I know they do a great job. I've had some poor quality films and reports from other places.

Re the aqua fit classes / pool work - I'd be guided by what Henry / sports doc says about your shoulder. From a personal point of view, pool work has been great for me in terms of my knee injury (I needed something low impact) but is no good in terms of my shoulder - the water increases the resistance my shoulder has to work against and stirs it up (I don't do any work for my shoulder in the pool, only kicking for my legs).

Let us know how you go!

Cheers,

JB

angieliu
10-01-2007, 08:01 AM
Hey JB,

New YEars and Christmas were a blast. New YEars more a blurr and entailed very little sleep, lotsa dancing and much more.

I'm going to see Henry on Friday so I'll see what he thinks. The sports med physician (I can't figure out if there is a difference between sports med physician and sports physician, is there??) said the MRI showed that there was a sublabral recess of the bicep tendon. It didn't make much sense to me because it didn't show how or why I was having shoulder problems. But you know, at least it's not a tear and I'm really happy with knowing just that. I think that my shoulder was also playing up a lot after the physio treatment I had (infrarential and ultrasound) really stirred things up and I hear that ultrasound can induce tendonitis in the shoulder capsule too. So, I'm going to go and see Henry first, get a good exercise program which is what I have been wanting for like months, and if it's still not getting any better then I'm going to see Seamus.

As for pool work.. I'll see what henry says. I did a class the other day and it was very low impact for my shoulder. I was a bit worried about it so I took things at a slower pace. I was talking with my friend who used to do exercise rehab and she was thinking that it would be quite good because you can do rotator cuff exercises in the water.

Well better get going. Take care of your knee and shoulder.

Angie

jellybean
10-01-2007, 08:02 PM
Hi Ang,

'Sounds like a good plan! (P.S. Sports med physician / Sports physician - same thing, physician who specialises in sportsmed).

Rotator cuff exercises in the water would probably be ok if done correctly (the number one important thing with these is that you learn to do them correctly and then that you do them correctly and diligently - both Henry and Joel will drum that into you.) For me (small full thickness tear of the supraspinatus tendon at the insertion), other pool work (i.e. swimming using my arms doesn't work).

'Hope the session with H goes well.

Take care.

Cheers,

JB

angieliu
12-01-2007, 04:19 PM
Hey JB,

Saw H today and he was awesome. My gosh he was so thorough with everything I was a bit taken by it all. Have been given lots of exercises and am going back to see H next week so hopefully on a good road back to shoulder stability. And more importantly this has been exactly what I have been looking for ever since I hurt my shoulder the second time.

It's funny, Henry took a look at my shoulder and did some tests and told me straight out that there was some shoulder instability there in the joint but when I asked the sports doctor because I had bought this shoulder brace, she didn't think that there wasn't any shoulder instability and not much use for it.

He also asked how I was referred to him and that I couldn't say because I don't know your name.

Oh well, thanks for the referral for Henry, at least things are heading down the right path (I hope) so that I can't hurt my shoulder again.

Angie

jellybean
15-01-2007, 12:40 PM
Hi Ang,

?Glad to hear the session went well, Henry is fantastic with shoulders. (As I think I?ve mentioned before, I tore the suprapspinatus tendon in my shoulder ? skiing fall ? and then developed secondary capsulitis (a frozen shoulder) about 3 months later. I sometimes wonder if the frozen shoulder would have developed at all if I?d been able to get treatment from him throughout my shoulder rehab. I was working down at the AIS for a few months when I did my shoulder, Henry treated me for the first 2 ? 3 months post-injury, I was then on the road for a month and wasn?t able to find a physio with the same mobilisation skills, my shoulder deteriorated and the frozen shoulder took hold (not a pleasant experience).

If your shoulder can be fixed with physio, H will fix it. (Your job is to be diligent with the ex rehab program!).

Interesting that H noticed instability when the sports doc didn?t? I don?t know anything about the sports doc you saw (some are definitely better than others), but I do trust Henry?s judgement.

With regards to the referral, just mention this site! It helps plenty of people. As for my name, something I like about this site is the anonymity it offers!? However, from the small amount you know about me I?m sure Henry could work it out if it was important to him.

?Hope everything continues to go well. Let us know how you go.

Cheers,

JB

angieliu
15-01-2007, 05:47 PM
Ahh the joys of anonymity JB!!

With regards to your shoulder, I actually wonder the same thing when I did my first shoulder injury. At that time I trusted every word my osteo said and he said to just rest it because he thought that it was a rotator cuff tear. So I did and then about 2 months after that I started with the resistance band and managed to get some strength back. It wasn't until my shoulder really started playing up after dancing continously for 3 weeks that it still wasn't that good and then I hurt it again. If guess I was smart enough to see the chiro who popped my shoulder back in but I gave up on treatment when the chiro back home suggested going to the sports doctor. 6 months later I'm finally doing that when in reality all I was looking for was someone to give me some exercises to help strengthen the shoulder joint. I knew it was unstable because I hurt it and when you have an unstable joint, the logical thing to do is to strengthen the muscles around to support it. I guess I was fortunate that I didn't get a frozen shoulder from my first injury. I can't imagine how unpleasant a frozen shoulder would be though.

In terms of diligence, I know I have to be good and do my exercises everyday but they are not pleasant and anything that makes my shoulder uncomfortable, I'll avoid it like the plague.

I thought that it was also really interesting that Henry said that he noticed instability. I guess the sports doctor was more concerned about a tear than instability and that would be why she sent me to see Henry to see if I could stabilise the muscles around my shoulder more.

I guess it'll just be a matter of waiting and seeing how things go.

Cheers,

A

jellybean
15-01-2007, 09:51 PM
Hi Ang,

'So important to find the right medicos for the right job (that's one of the benefits of this site - you can sometimes find good people quickly without having to go through your own trial and error - although, having said that, I guess alot of people are drawn to this site because they haven't found the right medicos/answers straight away!!??)

Re your ex rehab program - quite understandable if you avoid things that make your shoulder uncomfortable!! If, however, any of the ex's that H has given you are uncomfortable then check with him to make sure you are doing them correctly. Rotator cuff exercises done incorrectly can definitely hurt. Most important thing is to "SET" your shoulders first, before EVERY rep. This takes most people a while to "get". Go through them with H and then watch yourself in the mirror when you do them to make sure you're doing them correctly. (I found initially putting the theraband over the tap on the bathroom sink - making sure it wouldn't slip off - and then watching myself do the ex's in the mirror did the trick. As I got to know what it should feel like, that wasn't necessary. (Probably saved the tap too!!?)

Keep on keeping on!

Take care,

JB

angieliu
18-01-2007, 06:17 PM
Hey JB,

I agree it is so important to find the right medical for the job, and you know when I was looking for a sports doctor, I would try to get all this information out of the reception to look at what they specialised and they would barely tell me anything. So this site has been very useful but also in finding different articles for shoulder injuries.

As for the rehab program - so far soo good. I've also been able to swim and do aqua fit classes (Henry thinks it a good thing) without feeling like it hurts so that is really good. I just have to make sure that I set everything right before I start the exercises. As for the mirror, well H didn't mention anything about doing the exercises in front of the mirror until today so I'm definitely going to try the tap on the bathroom sink so I can use the mirror. I didn't think of that. How innovative JB!

I just have to get H to help me figure out a way to try to protect my shoulder joint when I get thrown into different dance moves because I have this dance event next week which is 4 days of straight dancing. I think I may be in for a lot of physio damage control after the weekend.

Oh well better get going. Hope the shoulder and knee are holding up a little better.

A

angieliu
22-01-2007, 06:28 PM
Ok need some help here.
As you know I've hurt my shoulder from two dance injuries. No proper diagnosis and no one can seem to find anything with the scans (maybe it is because they are older injuries). Had a MRI scan for a SLAP lesion and that was inconclusive. The physio thinks that I have instability around the shoulder joint and I totally agree.

Problem is that as I am preparing for a big dance event this weekend I have been practicing like mad. I've also been wearing my very attractive (not) shoulder brace which has helped a little. So yesterday I had 2 and a half hours of rehearsals and then a 2 and ahalf hour workshop in the afternoon. For some silly reason I felt the desire to do some bicep curls and must have over done it because it hurts right at the insertion of the bicep tendon into the shoulder joint.

I wonder if I should go and see the physio sooner rather than later to try to treat it? I'm seeing him on Thursday morning but not sure if I should wait and ice it to see if it calms down or go straight to see him to get it sorted out as soon as I can.

JB/ KJ anyone? any ideas on what to do??

jellybean
23-01-2007, 06:42 AM
Ang,

Probably wouldn't hurt to give H a call to see whether you should go in earlier (if, of course, you can get an earlier appointment). Does he actually know what you're planning to do this weekend? If you haven't already told him, it's important that you do so. If you want to get your shoulder right it's not enough to go to a great physio, you also need to be completely open with him and follow his advice (whether it's an exercise rehab program, avoiding certain things, whatever).

Let us know how you go.

JB

P.S. In relation to your query about cortisone injections - they definitely shouldn't be used as a quick fix (for me - I hate cortisone - they're a last resort). In addition, generally you'll be advised by a doc or OS or take it easy for a week or two afterwards - going straight into a dance contest where you're being thrown around for 4 days would not be a good move (no pun intended!?).

angieliu
23-01-2007, 12:11 PM
JB,

YEs H definitely knows that I am going to sydney for a 4 day dance event. I told him last week and the week before and he sort of went silent on me but didn't say anything (unsure if he was thinking that I was just nuts to go to it or if he didn't have a response to it). As for exercises, I'm am being good and H knows exact which things I like avoiding, but I keep on doing it especially the adduction exercises.. grrr they are nasty!

I think that since I'm seeing H first thing thursday I'll just rest it, be good to my shoulder and try not to stress it any more. I'm icing, massaging and wearing my shoulder brace for most of the time so it should help it a bit. I think I'm going to have to get him to check out the bicep tendon where it inserts into the shoulder though. It's weird that it's tender there (something must be overcompensating).

As for cortisone injections, H asked me if I had any done and I said no and this was something that was mentioned by the doctor. I still wouldn't consider doing it though unless I was in a great deal of pain which I am not so it's all good. As for dancing well after this 4 day event which I am performing at, I made a decision that I am going to take some time out from dancing and look after my shoulder. The worst thing would be that the injury would become a repetitive injury or worse I'd totally dislocate my shoulder.

So after congress, it's rest, rehab and very little dancing for at least 6 months. and lots of ice in between the days I'm dancing. The thought of not dancing for 6 months is daunting because I have been doing it every day for almost 7 years.. but I have to do it..

I'll let you know how I go after congress.

Ang

jellybean
23-01-2007, 08:34 PM
Hi Ang,

See what H says when he has a look at it on Thursday. It's not really weird that the biceps tendon is tender - the long head of the biceps inserts into the top of the labrum (the part that gets torn with SLAP lesions) and can get inflamed. (I also had thickening around the biceps tendon sheath with my rotator cuff tear and it used to get very tender).

Given you can have a break after the weekend, I'd ask H if it's worth seeing a sports physician to get a definitive diagnosis. If he says yes (he knows your shoulder) then take the time and go and see Seamus (i.e. a sports physician who is excellent with shoulders). SLAP lesions can apparently be difficult to evaluate (an inconclusive MRI doesn't necessarily mean anything) so don't waste your time with someone who doesn't specialise in shoulders. The sooner you get it sorted the better. Believe me, I know what it's like to spend a long time away from the things you love doing!!

'Hope Congress goes well on the weekend.

Take care.

JB

angieliu
24-01-2007, 06:35 PM
Hey JB,

Well Thursday is not too far away and so I'll see what H says. He was supposed to go through with me some technique when I am doing weights (I train like 2-3 times a week) but we didn't have enough time last week so I've asked him to go through it with me this week. I think that I over did it when I was doing my bicep curls and because the muscles around my shoulder are over compensating, I'd say that is why the bicep tendon is a bit sore. It doesn't hurt as much and I have been madly icing it which is working.

Talking about the break after this weekend from dancing, I will talk to H about if it is worth seeing a sports physician for a definitive diagnosis. I saw Dr Judith may in Canberra who initially thought it was a SLAP lesion and when the MRI results came back it was inconclusive and she suggested to go back to my first physio to trial rehab program. I decided not to go back to him because he had tried infrarential treatment and also ultrasound which stirred things up and as far as I understand both of these treatments should really be used for acute injuries not chronic ones which have been around over a year and a half.

I actually requested that the first physio provide me with a copy of the referral letter which I finally got yesterday and it said that the tests he had done were positive for a SST tendinopathy/ tear and signs of a possible SLAP lesion. Get this right, the last sentence said "physiotherapy treatment to date has been unsuccessful and that he hoped that the sports medicine doctor could make a further assessment". I couldn't believe it after 2 sessions with the physio and two treatments which stirred everything up, he concluded he couldn't help. He caused all the inflammation with the treatments. I just couldn't believe it. And you know what is funny, my friend said to me yesterday 'ange, I wouldn't like being your sports doctor because you know too much and don't accept their opinion until you've fully researched everything!" Well I guess that comes with being a medical anthropologist who doesn't trust many doctors advice because theyare just too straight down the line and some don't tend to think outside the box! Sorry to vent, I just couldn't believe what the physio wrote in the referral letter.. I'll show it to H tomorrow and see if he agrees.

So anyway, I will ask H what he thinks tomorrow. I also know that there are some sports physicians at the AIS and KJ has recommended David Hughes... But I will really think about making an appointment to see Seamus. There's no point stuffing around anymore and wasting anymore of my money when I don't know how specialised these people are in the field. And you are right, the sooner I get it sorted, the sooner I'll be able to go back and dance. It's daunting to think that I won't be able to dance for awhile... 6 months is a long time!!

Catch ya later 

Angie

angieliu
01-02-2007, 06:42 PM
Yah the shoulder held up through the 4 days of dancing after madly icing, putting voltarin on it and making sure that I took it easy when I had time to sleep. Only problem was that my neck started cramping on Monday instead (something else just had to happen instead). So neck is more sore than my shoulder.

Oh well at least H thinks that the shoulder is getting stronger if it held up during the weekend. He was a bit concerned. Said that the bicep tendon was flared because it inserts into the labrum and has been stressed when I accidently over did it with weights. So no more bicep curls with weights for the time being but apart from that all is good.

BTW how's the knee, and shoulder holding up??

jellybean
02-02-2007, 04:22 PM
Hi Ang,

'Good to hear that you pulled up relatively well after the weekend.

Yes, it can seem that it's one thing after the other (shoulder then neck) but they are almost certainly linked - it seems pretty common to experience neck pain in conjunction with a shoulder injury. I sure did and everyone I know who's had a shoulder injury has also experienced neck pain at some stage.

My knee is improving in terms of how far I can walk without pain (at one point it was around the block at max) but it still swells after being on the bike or if I am on my feet all day and feels like a rusty gate - like it needs a good "grease and oil change". My OS wants to give me a cortisone shot and while I hate them I am beginning to think it's the only solution (I've tried everything else), the next step after that is a series of HA (Hyaluronic acid) injections. My shoulder (well shoulders, long story) are also pretty average at the moment (not sure why - I'm not doing much training because I've got so much work on - 'may be because I've gone back to the old anti-inflamms (Mobic) - ran out of the new ones (Prexige) and don't have time at the mo to go to the doc to get another script. C'est la vie. Worse things can happen and I am sure they will improve again.

Take care of that shoulder.

Cheers,

JB

kjwilkin
02-02-2007, 05:23 PM
Hi Ang,

Just for your info David Hughes specialises in shoulders. He works with a lot of rugby players. Let us know how you go.

I'm waiting to see Greg Hoy about my shoulder in just under 2 weeks. Just can't wait to find out what he thinks. Then I can make a plan of action.

Good luck !!

angieliu
02-02-2007, 08:41 PM
Hey KJ,

Thanks for that. I'm going to wait to see how progress goes with the physio and rehab program. I was actually thinking of going to sydney to see Seamus who also specialises in shoulder injuries but will wait to see if I need to get a further diagnosis.

Good luck with your appt with Greg Hoy..

angieliu
16-02-2007, 09:19 AM
Hey everyone,

I went to see the physio yesterday and things are looking good. Thank gawd. After one month of exercise rehab I'm starting to build some muscle back on my shoulders which is great news and it means that my shoulder is starting to become a little bit more stable than before. So I'm very happy with that.

At this rate I think that I might not even have to go and see a specialist about the shoulder if all goes well. Fingers crossed I think..

A

jellybean
17-02-2007, 08:18 AM
Hi Ang,

Good to hear!

Cheers,

JB

kjwilkin
17-02-2007, 09:15 AM
Hi Ang,

It's great to hear. Hope it continues to improve.

Looking forward to seeing my physio next week after I saw Greg Hoy. Will be interesting to see how I respond with my specific physio.

kjwilkin

angieliu
01-03-2007, 01:43 PM
Just a quick update, I'm off to see Seamus in about 2 weeks time to get a second opinion. I spoke to H and he said that in comparison to the two sports doctors Seamus and David Hughes he thought I wouldn't benefit from seeing David. I think it's important to get a proper diagnosis and I'm know that MRI scans do not always show tears especially if they are micro tears.

Progress with shoulder is going well. I've moved up to the next stage in resistance bands and starting to use weights which I have been staying away from for the last month.

A

kjwilkin
01-03-2007, 07:10 PM
Just a quick update, I'm off to see Seamus in about 2 weeks time to get a second opinion. I spoke to H and he said that in comparison to the two sports doctors Seamus and David Hughes he thought I wouldn't benefit from seeing David. I think it's important to get a proper diagnosis and I'm know that MRI scans do not always show tears especially if they are micro tears.

Progress with shoulder is going well. I've moved up to the next stage in resistance bands and starting to use weights which I have been staying away from for the last month.

A

Hi Ang,

Glad to hear that you're progressing with your shoulder. I wish I could say the same thing.

On Tuesday I had a meeting with both my sports physicians and have come up with some good ideas. Due to see Greg Hoy in just over a month.

Good luck with Seamus and keep us posted.

angieliu
02-03-2007, 07:46 AM
Hey KJ,

Hope that you start to get more progress with your shoulder. I think that it just takes time. I guess progress is always slow. I saw H yesterday and he asked so do you feel stronger? I and I sort of gave a very quivering 'yes'.. It's just a bit of a surprise to think that my shoulders are getting stronger because they have been weak for almost two years.

Will keep you posted with Seamus.. I'm seeing him in three weeks time and counting.

A