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injuryupdate
02-10-2004, 11:22 PM
This is by no means meant to be an exhaustive list, but a guide to some of the specialists who see exclusively or mainly shoulder problems in Sydney. In Sydney the level of sub-specialisation is greater than other states because of the greater population, but I would encourage anyone from other cities to post a guide to the names in their town. I don't expect a ranking system, just a helpful guide as to who is working in the area:

Surgeons:
Des Bokor + David Duckworth, 116 Macquarie St Parramatta, 98938788
David Sonnabend, 6 McIntosh St Chatswood, 94195244
Mark Perko + Greg Burrow, 286 Pacific Hwy Crows Nest, 94375999
Danny Biggs, 111 Anzac Pde Kensington, 96635999
George Murrell, St George Private Hospital, 95537700
Stephen Quain, St. Vincent?s Clinic, 83826916
Jerome Goldberg, 160 Belmore Rd Randwick, 93995333

There are other practitioners who specialise in the shoulder in Sydney, such as sports physicians Seamus Dalton and John Best and physiotherapist Joel Werman.

If anyone knows of others who are experts in shoulder injuries in Sydney, please add to the list (or start another thread if you know of others in a different state).

Doug Stewart
09-10-2004, 11:19 AM
Hi, I'd appreciate it if you added my name to the list of specialists:
Doug Stewart
Sports Doctor
c/o The Daily Telegraph.

mhaber
23-10-2004, 02:12 PM
This is by no means meant to be an exhaustive list, but a guide to some of the specialists who see exclusively or mainly shoulder problems in Sydney. In Sydney the level of sub-specialisation is greater than other states because of the greater population, but I would encourage anyone from other cities to post a guide to the names in their town. I don't expect a ranking system, just a helpful guide as to who is working in the area:

Surgeons:
Des Bokor + David Duckworth, 116 Macquarie St Parramatta, 98938788
David Sonnabend, 6 McIntosh St Chatswood, 94195244
Mark Perko + Greg Burrow, 286 Pacific Hwy Crows Nest, 94375999
Danny Biggs, 111 Anzac Pde Kensington, 96635999
George Murrell, St George Private Hospital, 95537700
Stephen Quain, St. Vincent?s Clinic, 83826916
Jerome Goldberg, 160 Belmore Rd Randwick, 93995333

There are other practitioners who specialise in the shoulder in Sydney, such as sports physicians Seamus Dalton and John Best and physiotherapist Joel Werman.

If anyone knows of others who are experts in shoulder injuries in Sydney, please add to the list (or start another thread if you know of others in a different state).

Could you add:
Mark Haber Picadilly Centre, Wollongong, 0242295992, www.so.com.au

injuryupdate
21-11-2004, 09:10 AM
To search for sports physicians in NSW, you can visit:

http://www.acsp.org.au/pages/publiclist.php?keyloc=NSW&submitButton=Find

To search for sports physiotherapists in NSW, you can visit:

https://apa.advsol.com.au/scriptcontent/fap_index.cfm?section=foryou

Neither of these have searches by areas of expertise, but both of them list areas of interest next to the practitioner.

injuryupdate
20-07-2005, 06:55 PM
The trial practitioners directory is now open for viewing at:

http://www.injuryupdate.com.au/practitioners.php

If you have any suggestions for adding clinics to this directory, please email: dan_redrup @ injuryupdate.com.au

chops_75
25-07-2005, 11:07 PM
just wondering i require open surgery to repair a bankart labaret lesion ...after being advised to get it over an arthroscopic so that i can return to rugby..wondering if anyone has advice over which specialist to pick which is my ultimate dilemma..having been referred to each..
Dr. Jerome Goldberg
Dr. Des Bokor

hhh
26-07-2005, 07:36 AM
toss a coin, they are both gurus

injuryupdate
26-07-2005, 10:28 PM
I'd marginally recommend DB but agree with hhh that they are both top shelf.

chops_75
04-08-2005, 09:42 PM
hey just an update...went n saw DB and he found nerve damage in the right deltoid as a result of the dislocation in the shoulder n has re-scheduled for another pre-op appointment in 6weeks..it sucks cause i was psychologically ready for the operation on the 16tth august..am i right to take his advice or op to get surgery straight away n run the risk of the nerve never actually heelin...what about the thoughts on Dr. Sonnabend?

injuryupdate
05-08-2005, 08:49 AM
If axillary nerve is damaged there is a good chance it may never fully recover. Either way, what was possibly a 6 month recovery is now looking like 9-12. The good news is that even with axillary nerve problems, it is possible to return to contact sport. Jason Ryles and Adrian Morley both have permanently weak deltoids but are back playing rep footy.

Mirgo
05-09-2005, 12:13 PM
Hi,

I have undergone 3 shoulder operations.

2 x arthroscopic & 1 open.

I still dislocate my shoulder and it is really easy at present. I have no option but to go under the knife 4 more extensive suregery to repair soft tissue + boney banchart leison + Hil Sacks leison.

Original cause was a motor vehilcle accident which was severely exagerated by another car accident ( neither where my fault - unlucky I guess ).

I want to find the person with the BEST Reputation, who is known as the BEST. 4th Surgery - I want to get it right !

Does anyone know who this BEST of the BEST Shoulder Surgeon???
If you feel uncomfrotable here, please contact me here: keith.mirgis@eurorscg.com.au

Your information would be invaluable to me...

Thanks

Keith

SPK
05-09-2005, 07:21 PM
How many Shoulder Operations have you had?

injuryupdate
05-09-2005, 07:49 PM
There is no such thing as the BEST shoulder surgeon, but the ones listed at the start of the post are all very good. You can also get more than one opinion if you don't get on well with one of the surgeons on this list or any other recommended to you.

Mirgo
06-09-2005, 09:00 AM
How many Shoulder Operations have you had?

The first line of my post says:

"I have had 3 operations"

Thats how many I have had, and I still dislocate it - with alarming regularity - doing things such as vaccuuming, opening car doors etc.

Its a real pain in more than one way !

Mirgo
06-09-2005, 09:11 AM
There is no such thing as the BEST shoulder surgeon, but the ones listed at the start of the post are all very good. You can also get more than one opinion if you don't get on well with one of the surgeons on this list or any other recommended to you.

Thanks for the advice.

Are you in a position to make an opinion on who would be the most appropriate surgeon to deal with a very comlicated shoulder issue?

My condition consists of:

Extensive soft tissue damage + boney banchart leison + Hil Sacks leison.

Keeping in mind that I already have something like 7 - 9 anchors inbedded in the capsule, running out of room to put in more.

I have made an appointment ot see DB. Danny Biggs did the second operation, assisted by Machart ( original operation, assisted Danny Biggs on the second, and original treating specialist). Following op ws performed in Perth by Peter Campbell.

PC and Machart have recommended fusing some bone from elsewhere in the shoulder onto the end of the capsule. Sounds like the most logical step to me.

I would also like a third opinion, after DB.

I just want to return to the water to surf !


you help is appreciated.

sydunisportsmed
06-09-2005, 10:11 AM
Bokor, Sonnabend, Goldberg etc. are also good options in Sydney if you need further opinions, but it is impossible to compare the surgeons head to head. Sounds like a difficult problem and it may be worth getting more than one opinion.

hhh
07-09-2005, 01:56 PM
Comparing surgeons would make a good study if any of them were up to it. There has to be a BEST surgeon, just like there is a BEST tennis player, BEST swimmer and BEST sports doc who dabbles in epidemiology and injury surveillances.

The only ways there can't be a BEST surgeon is if you are saying that are all as good as each other, or as bad as each other - depending how you look at it. What you are saying is there is no evidence to suggest that a particular surgeon is better than another.

Mirgo
07-09-2005, 05:01 PM
hhh,

Thanks for that reply.

In Australia it is not compulsary - nor are there any laws in place for doctors to publish or report to any authorities regarding their performance.

Perhaps if this information / process was in place, it would be easier for all of us to make judement and choices.

SPK
08-09-2005, 01:19 AM
The first line of my post says:

"I have had 3 operations"

Thats how many I have had, and I still dislocate it - with alarming regularity - doing things such as vaccuuming, opening car doors etc.

Its a real pain in more than one way !


Sorry mate, I was just geeing you up because you posted it about a million times.

The Shoulder seems like a very troublesome body part to damage. A good mate of mine has virtually destroyed his from football and needs reconstructive surgery but he isn't prepared to do the rehab. He popped it out again a few weeks ago ripping some Tooheys Extra Dry out of a 6 pack. Not good.

Mirgo If you feel unsure as to which Surgeon to use, might I suggest a separate consult for each one you're considering? One with Bokor, one with Sonnabend and one with Goldberg etc. until you find one that you are the most comfortable with and have the most confidence in.

It might be time consuming, but it sounds like you're a desperate man who wants to get things right and it might be a very wise investment of your time.

Good luck with whatever course of action you take mate. I hope it all goes well for you.

sydunisportsmed
08-09-2005, 08:33 AM
Agree with hhh that for a specific problem that there could be a particular surgeon with a slightly higher success rate than all of the others (if you could actually get the statistics). However within the subgroups of problems and subgroups of patients the success order of surgeons would probably differ. It would therefore be silly to make a statement that X was the BEST shoulder surgeon across the board for all problems.

It's a bit like asking (but even more complicated than) "which is a better reconstruction, an open shoulder reco or arthroscopic reco?"

The answer is that it depends who you are - a professional NRL player generally would have a better success rate with an open reco, but an arthroscopic reco might be a much better option for, say, an Olympic diver (or Joe average who can't afford much time off work).

injuryupdate
17-11-2005, 07:50 AM
Grant Hackett went down to Melbourne to get Greg Hoy to operate on him. Hoy has also done Rafter, Warne and a few other big names, so he would be a good choice for anyone looking for a shoulder guru.